Friday, October 17, 2025

Flip-flop on fire risk zones

I addressed Los Angeles County's adoption of "defensible space clearance" requirements in a post on March 28th.  The requirements were applicable to all homeowners in areas facing significant fire risk.  We received a notice from the Los Angeles Fire Department outlining its guidelines and notifying us of inspections to be conducted by department personnel in or around June.  Among other things, the notice specified the following:

"It is required that all trees and shrubs shall be maintained free of deadwood and litter.  Native and ornamental vegetation known to be flammable, including, but not limited to: Acacia, Cedar, Cypress, Eucalyptus, Juniper, Pine, and Pampas Grass shall be removed within 30 feet of any structure..."

The fire hazard maps available online for our area at that time showed the majority of our peninsula was classified as facing severe fire risk.  Although we weren't specifically required to take any action prior to the inspections, the notice stipulated that homeowners would have just thirty days to resolve any issues that inspectors found and the preliminary guidance we received suggested that time frame could be difficult if extensive changes were required.  We decided to get ahead of the problem by taking a range of actions that made some sense to us.  We ended up removing a large number of shrubs, which I addressed in a post published on May 7th.

In July we received notice of our compliance with current guidelines.  We never saw an inspector nor received any specific input concerning future challenges, specifically the "zone zero" guidelines under development at the California State level.  As it became more and more apparent that "zone zero" guidelines will be implemented by year's end, I began formulating strategies to remove materials that might be considered "flammable" sitting within five feet of our house (i.e., within "zone zero").

One of my most recent actions involved pulling out two woody Coleonema album (breath of heaven) shrubs near the front door.  I subsequently filled in the empty area with a Lomandra, which is generally considered to be fire resistant. 

We dug up a Lomandra 'Platinum Beauty' in one area of the the front garden (shown in the photo on the left) and plunked it into the area formerly occupied by the 2 Coleonema shrubs.  I made an issue of checking its distance from the wall of the house to meet "zone zero" requirements (as shown in the photo on the right).


After I expressed my concerns about the pending "zone zero" guidelines, my husband did an internet search and discovered - drum roll! - that the local authorities responsible for our peninsula are in the process of adopting dramatic changes to our fire hazard severity zones.  These zone classifications are important because they determine where California's defensible space standards apply, including those relating to "zone zero."  I wasn't able to dig up a "before" map but the extent of the changes are remarkable as shown here:

The update was published by our city in mid-June but I don't follow the city's website, which was clearly a mistake in this case
Map Source: rpvca.gov


Moreover, when I checked the rating of our property and the properties within our immediate neighborhood, which consists of fifty-six homes and one large empty lot, I was even more surprised.

That black dot indicates our location within the green (no designated risk) area


So, at least at present, our home is not situated in a fire risk zone at all. (Regardless of this, I've noted that we still have to pay the annual inspection fee assessed by the County as the fee already shows on our property tax bill.)  In total, we and fifteen other neighborhood homeowners, including the owner of the empty lot (the house formerly on it burned down decades ago), are in the clear (green area).  However, twenty-one neighborhood properties are classified as at moderate risk (yellow area), thirteen are classified at high risk (orange area), and seven are classified at very high risk (red area).  As all of these homes are within minutes walking distance from our home, the close proximity to red and orange risk areas still makes me nervous.  How the zones were established isn't outlined in any specific way on the city's site, and our zone wasn't identified in our compliance notice, but I was led to understand that the approach followed the criteria established at the State level.  The factors considered in defining an area's "hazard score" included:
  • An area's "fire history"
  • "Existing and potential fuel" (vegetation)
  • "Flame length" (which according to Google AI refers to wildfire intensity and potential for damage)
  • "Blowing embers terrain" (which refers to how wind-blown embers spread during a wildfire) and
  • "Typical fire weather"


Officially at least, it appears that I no longer have to worry about the following areas of my garden:

I'm under no obligation to remove the lovely Camellia 'Taylor's Perfection' or Acer palmatum 'Sango Kaku' I planted next to the garage soon after we moved in over 14 years ago

I needn't worry that my beloved ever-blooming Grevillea 'Superb' is partially intruding in the 5-foot space between it and the house, despite a serious pruning this spring 

No immediate action is required with respect to the Coleonema and Pittosporum shrubs that make up the hedge here on the north end of the house

or the Camellia sasanqua and Pittosporum shrubs around the corner that we also inherited with the garden


The fence issue is also tabled for now.  We looked at a metal fence options and calculated that the cost, including installation, ran in around $10K.


Moving on to other less ambiguous matters, we did receive "significant" rain from the storm that passed through Southern California earlier this week.  It's been called a "Goldilocks" atmospheric river event as it put a temporary stay on the start of our fire season while avoiding mudslides in the areas affected by the fires last January.  Our net rain tally was 0.74/inch.  My 50- and 160-gallon collection tanks are full.  The 265-gallon tank didn't accumulate much.  After-the-fact, we discovered that one of the filters was blocked by an inch of mud, preventing rainwater from flowing into the tank during the storm.  That, and the fact that tank collects rain off the smallest roof surface (i.e., only the back half of the garage roof), accounted for the fact the tank was nearly dry.  The tank's placement can't be helped as it's too ugly to set up in front of the house.

This is the 265-gallon tank, which is seated flush with the back of the garage wall.  The clogged filter is shown in a closeup photo on the right.  It attached directly to the roof gutter.  There's a second filter the water passes through below it at the top of the tank itself.

I filled these plastic trugs with water flowing down the rainchain that I couldn't otherwise capture.  The first round I collected was used to water plants under the roof's overhang area and container plants sitting next to the house.  I dumped the water I collected after that into the 265-gallon tank once the clogged filter issue was resolved.  It was a pittance but at least it's a start.


The best news is that the garden is currently fully saturated.  I should be able to leave our irrigation system off for more than a week without touching any of the collected rainwater.  The only negative is that my work in the cutting garden remains on hold until the soil in the raised planters dries out and can be worked again.

All but one of the dahlia plants and tubers in the raised beds are gone.  I removed all 'Lady Darlene's' damaged foliage but she still has a few fat buds so I've given her another brief reprieve.  There are also 3 large foxgloves left in the middle planter I haven't made a decision about - they never bloomed but might do so in the coming cool season; however, they also may prevent me from getting any remaining tentacles of the dahlia tubers out to avoid a replay of the mosaic virus. 


Meeko and I may be getting some time off this weekend.

As soon as our daytime temperatures dropped into the 60sF, I turned on the heating pad below Meeko's pink afghan and she's been calmer ever since

 

Enjoy a great weekend and thumbs up if you're joining a "No Kings" march on Saturday!


All material © 2012-2025 by Kris Peterson for Late to the Garden Party

19 comments:

  1. A nice reprieve from regulations, and the water tanks are full! I'm happy to see Meeko again, she looks pretty happy relaxing on her nice warm bed :). It's got to feel good to keep that $10k in your pocket, and not on a new metal fence. It also makes me question the one bid I got on re-doing ours. Hmph. *I would never get one bid only, of course.

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    1. The cost of going with a 6-foot tall metal fence and the collateral damage that would be likely to accompany it wasn't appealing at all, Tracy. Push comes to shove, just taking out the wood fence and finding a way to marry the garden areas on either side begins to feel like a preferable solution.

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  2. Well that's good news! So hard to remove beautiful plants that add to the landscape. However, I think your precautions so far will serve you well just in case. Nice to get a bit of moisture. We are due for some here too. Nothing since early August so it's very dry. Hope you and Meeko get to enjoy your weekend.

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    1. My tree service guy was here recently to provide an estimate on my fall pruning exercise and, after I told him about the change in our fire risk zoning, he asked me if I regretted the work his team did in removing so many shrubs back in May. I hadn't really thought about that, it being a done deal, but I told him I didn't. My husband and I received a life-lesson in the value of attention to fire-proofing given what happened to his parents' home years ago when a wildfire struck.

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  3. I totally get why the close proximity of the green to red fire zone makes you nervous. That's why I agree with Elaine's comment: all the steps you took to safeguard your hose is not for nought. You most definitely earned a quiet cuddle with you beautiful fur baby.
    BTW, the remaining foxglove may not bloom till next season. I don't suppose you'd transfer them to a different spot in the garden?
    Chavli

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    1. Well, I do have holes here and there where the foxgloves might fit so that's not a bad idea, Chavli, at least in theory. The reason I don't generally plant them in my beds is that most of my larger garden is too dry to sustain them. If I knew that we were going to have a wet winter, I probably wouldn't hesitate to do just that but the predictions are ambiguous at best. It looks as though NorCal may get more rain but it's too soon to tell what's going to happen with SoCal. The La Nina system is generally expected to leave us drought-y but other factors suggest that warmer temperatures may end up conjuring more atmospheric rivers. When in doubt, it makes some sense just to go ahead and give it a try I guess ;)

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  4. Dear Kris,

    This is all such a worry. Climate change for some remains at present an inconvenience at worst but for you and many many others, this is a life-threatening situation. And, what a beautiful garden that you have. It must be very stressful for you to think how best to proceed and yet retain the beautiful environment which you have created.
    No Kings sounds a very good policy....we hope it catches on in the UK.

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    1. While humankind has been required to adapt to ever-changing circumstances through the millenniums, the stupidity and denial of some at extreme costs to others is difficult to impossible to forgive, especially when they're in roles of leadership. Treating climate change as a hoax is certainly one such travesty but at least local governments are finally taking its impacts seriously.

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  5. The county considers my neighborhood at high risk, starting at the house 1 house below ours, but our insurance company does not consider our house to be in a fire zone at all. I'm happy about the insurance company but baffled about the science.

    It's simply wise to clear out 5' from the house anyway--the stucco is much better off with no irrigation closer than 5'. I plan to do it gradually. Sooner or later the state will outlaw all landscape irrigation--probably during the next drought.

    We got 1.29" on Tuesday and an additional 0.18" overnight into Wednesday for a thrilling 1.47"--what a marvelous treat! Everything washed clean.

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    1. Conflicting assessments like that are hard to fathom, as are abrupt flip-flops in terms of guidance. To be fair, local officials have tried to educate residents. I still have video recordings of discussions on the subject, I haven't gotten around to playing.

      The rain was wonderful, even at half your windfall. WeatherWest dot com is still unclear as to what the winter will offer us. We're looking at mild to moderate La Nina conditions but there are apparently other factors in the Pacific that could trigger more atmospheric rivers.

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  6. I was wondering about the rain for you and Hoov, glad you got a significant amount, that's wonderful. As for the regulations I suppose the fact you're not in the "danger zone" is good for insurance reasons, and your not being forced to take care of the things your common sense (or wallet) tells you not to worry about, at least for now.

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    1. It'll be interesting to see how insurance companies react to the wildly varying statuses of their clients, Loree.

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  7. The fire situation must be a constant worry. So glad you had some good rain. We're very dry.

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    1. Drought comes to us all it seems. I hope you get some rain soon, Susie.

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  8. The fire hazard maps here in Oregon ended up being challenged. Just about everything in my part of S. Oregon is in a red fire zone. I am in a tiny green zone, but don't feel safe. Anything can happen when there is wind. A lot is just luck.
    I got rid of almost all my Dahlias because of virus. Then, the next year I grew from seed, very expensive seed. All the plants showed signs of virus. The small plants had never been out in the yard, and had no insect activity. I read that seeds carry the virus too. One thing I've noticed is that my dark leaved varieties seem much less prone, and if they do have it, it's just a little on the lower leaves. I've decided to just get rid of badly affected plants, and let the rest go as long as they look reasonable. I'm certainly not going to spray pesticides. I've had thriving rose bushes with leaves that show virus from time to time. Maybe dahlias can live with it too.

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    1. Early on, I'd argued that my area was very different from the more fire-prone areas like Malibu, but the area had been entirely red since we moved here and I didn't think that was going to change. I didn't even hear about a reevaluation of the zones in our area (which was done by local authorities rather than CalFire) until it was a done deal. Politics - and the potential impact on insurance coverage - were almost certainly factors. I noticed that Trump National nearby is classified as a green zone ;)

      I'm sorry to hear about your experience with the dahlia mosaic virus. That doesn't bode well for my chances of avoiding a rehash next year despite my current efforts. Thanks for sharing your findings, though.

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  9. Thankfully, we don't have to deal with fire hazard maps here. However, we do get the occasional hill fire, though thankfully nothing too close to our village.

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    1. Wildfires has become a steadily bigger issue here as climate change accelerated - we're generally dry here for a good 6 months even in years where the rain is relatively plentiful. The huge fires that decimated 2 large areas of Southern California in January has put everyone even more on edge.

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  10. Whether it was required or not, what you did made your house safer. That should make you feel good.

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